Plating of the central part for tier VI - VII cruisers is brought to the value of 25 mm. I don't think BBs need significant survivability buffs as a whole. Az egyetlen high tier dd-m a Daring, az meg megvédeni se tudja magát a planek ellen annyira szar rajta az AA, így kb bukta, hogy azzal játszak. Standard 10-pt captain on ANY DD is usually:PT -> LS -> SE -> CE. The carrier changes, addition of these laaarge cruisers, spotting changes along with few others are already changing the way we play for the most part, but thats for the next post. Haruo Nakajima (中島 春雄, Nakajima Haruo, January 1, 1929 – August 7, 2017) was a Japanese actor best known for playing Godzilla in twelve consecutive films, starting from the original Godzilla (1954) until Godzilla vs. Gigan (1972). Increasing EVERY T6-T7 cruiser side plating to 25mm isn't just a magical *poof change you can just do. Please WG, don't make WoWs turn into WoT, where a bottom tier noob is totally powerless against a top-tier premium-tank gold-spamming veteran... [–]Le__BagutteAigle is the best bagutte 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (3 children). If the existing plating or armor belt was thicker, it won't be changed; Again, this is pretty much the same story; A Montana will give zero fucks about your Ibuki having 27mm, whereas the sucky Bismarck will bounce. It doesn't negate the value of armor, or negate the value of barrel size (since bigger barrels would start at higher thresholds. This, in my opinion would be very good; a lot of new players don't have the points at those tier to spec IFHE and it's honestly laughable when a newb on a Dallas is shooting a T7 BB and just shattering. It's not actually rounded down. The only ships which are too strong with IFHE are the Akizuki line Kutuzov and Belfast. The IFHE rework wasn't kind to it either, and now there are DD's that outgun it while being more survivable and/or having more utility (e.g. Not being melted by a Harugumo or a Worcester when you get close is a plus; i agree with that, but there are other ways to achieve that to some degree. Now, if we stopped here, i could write this off as simply as a big game change for the CLs. I don't see a problem with this. Contato: contatoharuyuki@gmail.com Harugumo, 3s stock. My main issue is that it means quite a bit for some BBs, yet for others it's nothing. What is the point of played post IFHE Atlanta. During the course of her service she was transformed into a heavy cruiser, as intended by the original design. If you can't tell, im not really a fan of this one either. Aand how will screwing light cruisers to the ground change that? Discuss builds, strengths, weaknesses, and overall feel. For every light cruiser, this change alone would be big. They then boost the plating of BBs making IFHE still as necessary and further cripling some ships. Blizzard and I don't have a good relationship for when they rework heroes that I love. Also, 152mm AP is nowhere near consistent enough to be a source of damage. As well as... First Gripe. Even then, the suggested IFHE nerf is bit too much. Again, this is fair. Honestly, i wish the HE pen mechanics had worked like this all along. A little more controversially, I don't think that most tech tree CLs need nerfs on the magnitude we're getting. This will destroy its DPM against battleships and simply make sustained fire a light show (especially with its already pathetic 5 percent fire chance cut completely in half). Minotaur is kinda the same story, extra armor will propably just hurt you allowing more shit to stick instead of going through. Mogami : (you forgot to talk about the base pen of 152 and 155 mm guns of tier VIII-X cruisers going from 1/6th to 1/5th) can now pen 30mm without IFHE, with IFHE pen goes from 33mm to 37mm, fire chance goes from 7% to 5%. I mean this comes back to the fundamental issue that the game mechanics are actually pretty limited, and WG is struggling to make them all work together in harmony. No thanks, the IFHE nerfs WG proposed are more than justified, you're just trying to preserve this cancerous HE spamming meta which should've ended years ago. [–]Zanurath -1 points0 points1 point 1 year ago (0 children). Im sure that most of us have been under a shower of shells coming from IFHE equipped light cruiser and that experience can vary heavily; Ranging from taking pathetic amounts of damage from Italian cruisers, getting everything blasted off by a Worcester to being melted by a Henri, while playing GK and unable to do anything because that dude is 19km away… ok i don't know where im going with this. Talking about IFHE it's getting changed too. He also played various other giant monsters in Kaiju films, including Mothra and The War of the Gargantuas and also appeared in … Sure, the direct damage they deal is lacking but still potent if you know where to hit and actually hitting the intended parts of ship, pending RNGesus' blessing on hit and fire chance. Iz balans comrade. Besides, how much of an issue are IFHE armed ships truly? Thanks for sharing your thoughts, but I'll be waiting to see some progress before I push for more mechanic changes. A BB HE shell would do 100% to most things, a 203mm cruiser would be more like 75% to battleships, and light cruisers in the 25%-ish (atlanta) to 50% (kirov) range. It already has on average the worst damage per game of any teir 7. With it, pen goes from 16mm to 15mm, fire chance from 5% to 3%. Optting to deal reliable chip damage instead by picking the overhauled IFHE skill is still an option though, but I consider it more interesting teamplaywise when CLs can pressure BBS with DoT effects while other BBs deal chip damage. If existing plating or armor belt is thicker than 25mm, it won't be changed; Ok these are the ones im least sure about. Even DDs can take more punishment than cruisers, especially since the BB AP change. Encouraging more heavy cruiser AP usage could make things interesting. November 12, 2020. A good example of this is 127 mm guns. 最爹/下/狗. This, in my opinion would be very good; a lot of new players don't have the points at those tier to spec IFHE and it's honestly laughable when a newb on a Dallas is shooting a T7 BB and just shattering. Problem with everyone saying IFHE is imbalanced as it is and that CLs are currently OP if using IFHE.. Is that they are statistically doing massively less damage per game than battleships. [–]VirtusIncognita 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago* (0 children). Either nerf the fires or the pen (which would suck) please not both. The Asian Studies Program 102 Old Botany Building, Unviersity Park, PA 16802 ph: 814.867.3260 | fax: 814.863.3528 | email: asianstudies@psu.edu Currently, when you get under a stream of Worcester shells (as a T10 BB) you will be left with 30k less hp and have double fire on your deck. You might wonder if the Flint is worth it in general. [–]RatiasuKitakami 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children). 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